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Alive & Kicking by Jeff Gilbert
Yes, Pearl Jam have become a media phenomenon, but
guitarists Stone Gossard and Mike McCready are playing it real cool.
First, you heard the songs. Heavily passionate, they were rich with steady
swirls of unforced melody, and tempered by strong, elusive riffs and a
purposeful edge. Guitarists Stone Gossard and Mike McCready's spontaneous
blend of enigmatic chords and understated lead breaks transcended rock
cliches to evoke powerful, genuine emotions. The simple one note spiral
of "Alive" and the hypno-riffing of "Evenflow" clearly
demonstrated that this was no ordinary rock group.
This was Pearl Jam, riding the crest of a tidal wave
of valid hype to-could it be?-superstardom. Pearl Jam, appearing on Saturday
Night Live and MTV (with regularity), surfing hitherto alien waters. A
platinum band, hanging Ten.
Since last year's release, the band has toured ceaselessly,
journeying around the world. In a decidedly less than posh
Paris hotel room, Stone Gossard answers
the knock of a maid. No black silk stockings. No cute hat. If the guitarist
is disappointed, however, he doesn't show it. Outside, in the cold and
damp street beneath his window, a group of kids hope for a chance to get
an autograph or a photo. Pearl Jam, soaring in the
U.S. , is also riding high
in France-indeed, they are hot all over
Europe.
The demands spawned by success have made it nearly
impossible for the members of Pearl Jam to enjoy the fruits of that success.
"It's almost turned into the job you never wanted in the first place,"
moans Gossard with a snicker. When Guitar World came
calling, the band hadn't had a day off in weeks. It ain't easy, big success.
Especially when you have to work this hard.
Guitar World: Does Ten, the title of your album, refer to the months you
spent touring to support it?
Stone Gossard: [laughs] Man, I'm so burnt out.
All I want to do is go home. I'm ready for a long rest.
Mike McCready: We're so tired of talking about ourselves. There's only
so much you can say about your band and your guitar.
GW: I take it you're not too caught up in the technical aspects of guitar
playing.
McCready: I have the worst time doing that. [laughs]
Guitar magazines ask me technical questions, but I
don't know, I just do it! It's more of a feeling thing for me.
I totally hate that stuff, it's like math. And I hate math!
GW: Okay, let's talk about something you like doing. Pearl Jam's performance
on MTV Unplugged must have struck you as a great opportunity to showcase
another side of the group.
McCready: It came out alright, but it could have been a nightmare, because
we ordered some specific equipment and they gave us pretty shitty stuff.
I wanted to get a Martin, some nice guitars. But when you rent equipment,
you don't know what you're getting. Jeff [Ament, Pearl Jam's bassist]
ordered some specific basses and they didn't appear. The acoustic guitar
I played had really high action, so it was totally impossible to do leads.
But I thought it came out pretty well anyhow.
GW: Was it equally uncomfortable for you, Stone?
Gossard: No. It was a lot scarier going in than it actually turned out
to be. We showed up, and instead of the Gibson Chet Atkins steel-string
guitar I had ordered, they had a classical one there. It was getting late-like
eleven o' clock at night-and where can you rent stuff at that hour? Luckily,
we knew some people who were able to score us a couple more guitars, and
it turned out fine. I ended up with a Chet Atkins steel-string-which played
great-and a Takamine that felt pretty good. In those kinds of situations,
you just have to play with the hand you're dealt. [laughs]
McCready: It was weird, because we've only done five or six brief acoustic
shows, and it forces you to play differently; you can't rely on feedback.
[laughs] It forces you to use dynamics, and
to look at each song in a different way. Some songs turned out good acoustically,
and some just didn't quite happen. I didn't think "Evenflow"
was any good.
Gossard: an acoustic show is really sort of naked, exposed way of playing
your songs, because you can't hide behind distortion. Doing
it in front of millions of people os even more intimidating. We
actually went out there and had a fun, energized show. It's a cool way
to hear the band, because the drums and vocals are featured a lot more;
Dave [Abbruzzese], our drummer, is a great player and Eddie [Vedder] can
really shine when he's given room to move around vocally. It gave people
a different perception of the band.
GW: How would you rate your performance on Saturday Night Live?
McCready: I felt good about it. I thought "Porch" was good,
and "Alive" was okay. But, honestly, I was nervous as shit.
I'm just glad we got through it in one piece.
GW: Did it complicate matters that sex goddess Sharon Stone [Basic Instinct]
was the guest host?
McCready: [laughs] Stone's guitar tech, Skully, got her blouse after a
sketch where she had to take off her clothes. We took turns smelling it.
GW:[Regretfully] The perks of fame. Did you
feel at all mechanical during the performance?
McCready: I felt really nervous during the soundcheck before the show,
but when we did it, it just felt like playing live. You can't allow yourself
to think,"Oh my God...I'm playing in front of 25 million people!"
If you did, you'd just freak out. There was definitely a lot of tension-it
was a nerve-wracking experience-but just being there was amazing. Me and
a buddy went up in one of the rooms and got loaded in honor of John Belushi.
Gossard: They bring in a studio audience for a complete, timed dress rehearsal
before doing the actual show, and I think the first time we played, we
were totally spot-on. But when we did it live, we just sort of jumped
out there. I guess it turned out all right-everyone said it was cool-but
it wasn't a memorable performance on a guitar level. [laughs]
GW: Does your awareness that you've sold over a million records change
the way you perform?
Gossard: Well, I've always felt pressure to play well live and to be in
a great band, so it hasn't really changed things that much. The only thing
that affects me is when they charge a lot of money for the show. We've
made it a point to try and keep our ticket costs down, but you really
want to put on a good show for someone who's paid 20 bucks for a ticket.
That's pretty expensive. So I feel a responsibility in that sense.
GW: Now that you've had to live with Ten for
over a year, does the material still hold up for you?
McCready: I think we're much better now, live, than we are on the record.
The record is fine for what it is-we were a band for only three-and-a-half
months whe we recorded it-but I don't think it's the best we can do. We've
been working on new songs and have developed a lot of material, so I'm
way more excited about doing the next album. I'm really amazed that Ten
is doing so well.
GW: Have you been prepping with demos or do you just store up jams and
ideas?
McCready: It's not so much demos as it is working out stuff at soundchecks.
We've added two new songs to our set-"Footsteps" and "Drop
A Leash." We use the spontaneity to work
out kinks.
Gossard: We have lots of new songs. You wait and see,
you'll be giving our next record high praise! [laughs]
It's really going to be special. Having Dave in the band has given us
a whole new groove and a lot of new types of jams-a lot of different tunings,
weirder stuff.
GW: Describe the new tracks,"Breath" and "State Of
Love And Trust ," included on
the Singles soundtrack.
Gossard: "Breath and "State Of Love
And Trust " were recorded last February
in Seattle , and are
just a couple of songs that we thought would be good for the soundtrack.
Not much of a story, is it? [laughs] They're
older songs. "Breath" is on the first demo we did as a band.
I used a Les Paul and Marshall on that track. We didn't really have time
to mess around and bring in my Vox AC30 and my Steinberger! [laughs]
We had a day and a half to do it, so I just played through my normal set-up.
GW: In Singles, Pearl Jam appear as Matt Dillon's
band, Citizen Dick. I haven't seen the movie yet; do you get to play?
Gossard: No, we didn't play in the movie at all. Matt Dillon never sings
in the movie, either. All the scenes with Matt and Citizen Dick have them
sitting around a coffee table, talking or just finishing practice. The
only bands that got to play were Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, who
appear in the background in bar scenes.
GW: Tell me the story behind "Dirty Frank," the funly b-side
of the "Evenflow" single.
McCready: "Dirty Frank" was written while we were tourng with
the Red Hot Chili Peppers. The song's about our bus driver, Frank-we were
convinced he was a serial killer. We would find piles of empty beer cans
under his driver's seat after a whole night's drive. It was like, "Oh,
man; I'm glad we're still alive!"
Gossard: "Dirty Frank" is a Pearl jam.
The lyrics on that song are amazing, some of the best Eddie's ever written.
GW: The song has a real funk feel to it, no doubt reflecting the influence
of touring with the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Gossard: It had a lot to do with that. You can't help but be influenced
by the Chili Peppers when you watch them night after night. Rather than
emulating them, we just wanted to catch their groove and feel it the way
they feel it. There's a little Chili Peppers tribute in the song, in the
line,"They cook 'em just to see the look on their face." A little
hats-off tribute. [laughs] It's cool to have
lighter moments like that. Sometimes it's great to be dark and foreboding,
but this band definitely has a sense of humor, too. It's important that
it comes out every once in a while, to keep things in perspective. I don't
think Pearl Jam are doomsday predictors or
sad guys; I think we're a band that enjoys life.
GW: With Pearl Jam doing so well, I don't think it surprised too many
people to see the re-lease of Temple
Of The Dog , the album you
did with Chris Cornell and Matt Cameron of Soundgarden last year.
Gossard: I think it was really predictable. [laughs]
It may seem crass, but I'm happy about it, because I think it's an amazing
record. I'm really proud of having played and worked on it with Chris
and Matt. It'd about getting together and having a good time, playing
music with some friends you never a chance to play music with.
GW: Are there any plans to promote it this time around?
Gossard: I don't think anyone's up for touring to support it right now.
[laughs] I think we've all had our load of
touring at this point.
GW: As it is, you'll have two more months of touring with Lollapalooza.
What are your impressions of the other bands on the Lollapalooza bill?
McCready: I don't know Ministry that well, but I'm looking forward to
checking out Ice Cube, who blows me away. My God, his album is incredible.
It's such honest music, with awesome grooves-those old Parliament samples
are incredible. That, and Soundgarden, of course.
It's always amazing to see them play night after night. The Peppers are
an amazing band, and they were really cool to us when we toured together;
they went out of their to take care of us.
Eddie incited riots a couple of times, and we were going to be forced
to pay for the damage, but the Peppers took care of it. We really love
playing with them.
Gossard: I think the Lollapalooza lineup is great. Ice Cube is probably
the most exciting for me too, just because I'm such a huge fan. Right
now, he makes the greatest rap records around. I'm really interested in
seeing how his show comes across live. Other than that, any time you have
the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Soundgarden together, it's going to be cool.
Ministry could be interesting; I've never seen them live, but I've heard
great things about them. I hear the singer is a totally "out there"
dude. I have no idea whatsoever what Lush and The Jesus And
Mary Chain are like. My impression is that they're a little more low-key
than the rest of us.
[Transcription courtesy of NinjaBot! of kittyradio.com]
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